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Post by Zadkiel on Jan 12, 2016 23:43:34 GMT
There are now so many different types of evidence that Europeans knew about America for a long time before Christopher Columbus' first voyage in 1492 that there should no longer rule any doubt that the assumed "unknown" continent in fact has been regularly visited by expeditions from the "old" part of the world at least from the Phoenicians' time.
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Post by Tundra on Jan 19, 2016 12:09:05 GMT
It's an established historical fact that Vikings were the first Europeans to discover north America in the late 900s.
But regular expeditions prior, or up till Columbus' discovery seem rather far fetched to me.
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Post by Zadkiel on Jan 19, 2016 12:23:09 GMT
It's an established historical fact that Vikings were the first Europeans to discover north America in the late 900s. But regular expeditions prior, or up till Columbus' discovery seem rather far fetched to me. Most people believe this based on available information. But if we go to other and less known sources (which the defenders of the mainstream theories hope will continue to stay in the shadows), there emerges another picture with roots in various disciplines. Linguistics is only one area that has baffled researchers over the years. Why did so many of the native tribes of the Americas already use words and expressions from known languages like old Greek, Latin and Gaelic when the first Europeans made contact with them if there had been no contact prior to Columbus (except for some northern tribes that had absorbed elements of the Norse lingo)? Also, traditions involving house building, fishing and children's games are so similar that it's statistically improbable that they could have originated and developed in parallel without an outside influence.
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Post by Tundra on Jan 19, 2016 12:27:41 GMT
Can you list which tribes, and what words they used that your sources claim are derived from other languages?
I'm by no means an expert on native Americans, but I do know that they originally arrived via a land bridge in Northern Canada/Alaska. Ship, house and fishing tendencies could have carried over from their original migration areas.
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Post by Zadkiel on Jan 19, 2016 12:54:50 GMT
Here are a few examples:
The Greek word for "god" is theos, while the Toltec and the Aztec used the phrase teo. The Spanish conquistadors that invaded Mexico reported that the Aztec called their pyramids teo-calli. In Greek, kali means "house", and it was exactly "the house of the gods" teo-calli meant in the Aztec language. "King" or "chief" is malka in Arabic, melek in Hebrew and malko in the old languages of the American Indians. The Central Asian Uzbek use the word tepe about "mountain" or "hill", while the Zapotec called their heights tapek. The term for "sacred tree" is also very similar in different languages. The ancient Egyptians called it um, the Persians hom, the Hindu haoma and the Maya om. And as if this wasn't enough, Augustus Le Plongeon claims that as many as one third of all the words that the Maya used had Greek synonyms, while Chiapenec in Yucatán has many common words with Hebrew.
When we study the language of the Brazilian Tupi Indians, it appears to be related to Sumerian. As an example, the Sumerian King Urgana's Disclaimer from around -4000 contains countless words that have similar counterparts in Tupi. The word sum means "priest" and the Tupi used the variant sumé to describe priests, sorcerers, missionaries and doctors.
Also the state of Piauí is rich in traces of pre-Columbian presence. Members of the oldest tribe in the area, the Gheghe, call their language Nhehen Gatu. This language has many features in common with the language of a tribe in Albania, which also calls itself Gheghe. Alexander Braghine holds it to be quite unlikely that this depends on coincidence and he therefore believes that both of these tribes must have a common origin. When the Portuguese explorer Pedro Alvares Cabral became the first white man for a long time to land in Rio de Janeiro, he was told that the Guarani Indians called the area around the bay Carioca. Cari means "white man" and oca denotes "home", just like the Greek word oika. Carioca was thus "the white man's home" and Cabral can obviously not have been the first European to visit the beautiful bay around Sugarloaf Mountain.
In the report to the French king after his expedition to America, Giovanni da Verrazano writes that all the way from South Carolina and north to West Virginia, there were different tribes that can be suspected of not having been purely Indian. They had admittedly often slightly darker skin than the average Europeans, but their facial features were more European than Indian. The first colonists that came in contact with them could only verify that they looked like a cross between the two races. The British author James Needham writes that they had beard and hairy skin; and that they were wearing clothes and lived in log cabins. They themselves claimed to be of Portuguese or Moorish descent. Steven Sora believes that they were the descendants of Portuguese that reached America before Columbus, while others specify it to long-bearded Templars that had fled from Europe. If the male part of the American indigenous people at all was able to grow a beard, it is not known that they chose to let it grow long, as was the case with these strange hybrid tribes on the east coast. Instead, discoveries of coins from the Bar-Kosiba Period in Palestine (around 135) witness that at least the Melungeon Tribe in one way or another had been in contact with the Middle East, where some groups were known for their long beards. Some of the Melungeons were also able to communicate with the first colonists in a broken English from Queen Elizabeth 1's Era. In recent times, there have been carried out genetic tests, whose results indicate that the Melungeons are related to the Italians, Portuguese and the inhabitants of the Canary Islands, in addition to the American Natives and black slaves. The British historian Samuel Williams writes about a giant bell that the Melungeons in Tennessee used to summon people with twice a day. European explorers neither understood the language nor their customs, but they still got a certain impression that their religious rites had Christian origins.
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